---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MKA LIVE CHAT at WWW.MARY-KATEANDASHLEY.COM DATE: July 24, 2000 TIME: 4:00pm PDT, 7:00pm EDT, 11:00pm GMT EVENT DESCRIPTION: live chat with the webmasters of www.mary-kateandashley.com, the official site mary-kate and ashley olsen were *not* present at this chat This is an UNOFFICIAL UNEDITTED TRANSCRIPT provided by FalcoN, the webmaster of http://www.mary-kateandashleyolsen.com *** This transcript is uneditted, uncensored and may contain inappropriate material ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Session Start: Mon Jul 24 17:53:00 2000 [17:53] *** mkaguard sets mode: +n [17:53] *** mkaguard sets mode: +t [17:53] *** mkaguard sets mode: +o mkabot [17:53] *** mkaguard changes topic to '30minute chat with the webmaster' [17:54] hey room!!! [17:54] hey britney! [17:54] Hi Everybody!!!!!!!! [17:54] hi [17:54] hold on, ill be back, my sn will be i_love_ashley [17:54] Hiya all!!! [17:54] wazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzup [17:54] hi [17:55] hi [17:55] Hi, everyone! How was your weekends? [17:55] *** mkabot sets mode: +o watcher [17:55] anyone want to chat press 1111111 [17:55] hi FANatic!! [17:55] What is sn??????? [17:55] Hi everyone! [17:55] 1111111 [17:55] Hi peopel [17:55] hi lath [17:55] whos the Webmaster? [17:55] Mikayla- sn is Screen name. [17:55] WHATS UP! [17:56] Hi how are you? [17:56] Hey room! Im back! [17:56] wazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzup [17:56] fine! U? [17:56] Hi, how are you? [17:56] hi [17:56] Hi Taylor [17:56] Hi, how are you? [17:56] are you allowed t ogive addresses for your MKAO site you made? [17:56] i made one and i want people to go there [17:56] I'm great! Thank you. [17:56] watcher is webbie coming today? [17:56] hi mikayla [17:56] Lathander! CyberT! Hi! :) [17:56] HI FANatic Im fine how about you? [17:56] no you aren't [17:56] hi watcher [17:56] Hi Watcher and Mkaguard [17:56] I really good, thank you. [17:56] WHATS UP! [17:57] Vanilla yes the webmaster should be here today [17:57] oh darn [17:57] mary-kate and ashley's sn is mary_kate_and_ashley_olsen_rock [17:57] Haddi! good to see you again! :o) [17:57] Hi Haadi [17:57] No it isn't. [17:57] WHO LIKES AARON CARTER, PRESS 123 [17:57] is that their sn for AOL? [17:57] hi webmaster! [17:57] 123 [17:57] CyberT-Good to see you too dude hows life? [17:57] Hello Everybody [17:57] yeah i know [17:57] HI!!!!! [17:57] Hi, how are you? Was your weekend good? [17:57] Hi webbie how are you? [17:57] um wait.......... [17:57] VANILLA, YA LIKE AARON CARTER? [17:57] haha [17:57] yes [17:57] Hello webmaster please call and confirm [17:57] ME TOO [17:57] FANatic - Excellent - thank you. [17:57] hi webbie! [17:57] Vanilla -Just fine. Thanks, [17:58] not bad Haadi! Yours? [17:58] could i give you my addy for my MKAO site i made? i made it today [17:58] ASL ROOM [17:58] hi [17:58] You know the walk-on part for the next movie? Is it for a feature film or a You're Invited film? [17:58] ILuvAirbo do u have Yahoo Messanger? [17:58] CyberT-Pretty good. Looking at new effects proccessors today [17:58] mkaguard - K its me. I 'm on the other line. [17:58] When is the Questions & Answers page gonna be updated?? [17:58] NO, I HAVE AN AOL MESSENGER [17:58] hi mk and a [17:58] vote: who do u like better? mary-kate or ashley? [17:58] fanatic: sdp was the last one [17:58] It was just updated Friday. [17:58] either the webmaster is fake or in a good mood, he's 5 minutes early!! :o) [17:58] BOUT YOU?? [17:58] FANatic - whichever comes first. [17:59] did you know mka have big brother and two part brother and sister that are younger [17:59] Why aren't you on the same line as mkaguard?? [17:59] cool [17:59] hi webmaster!! [17:59] There is that sound of music again :o) [17:59] lol lath [17:59] Is the permission page under construction? [17:59] GOOD MOOD - [17:59] could i give you the addy for my MKAO site i made today? [17:59] hi webmaster [17:59] Are there directions as to how Mary-Kate fixes her hair?? Please help!! :-) [17:59] DO YA HAVE AN AOL SCREEN NAME? IF SO, WHAT IS IT? [17:59] ILuvAirbo will you add me on aol IM its PawzPurrz [17:59] lathander: here, he's on time [17:59] fine bye room [17:59] CyberT-Yup. LOL! Just wanna get one of those new ones that can make the sounds of ten different amps. [17:59] hi room [17:59] Can you email me the address to MK&A's production company? [17:59] ashley do you like britney spears????i do [17:59] YUP [17:59] webmaster are mka going to chat [18:00] Do you want the style hair cut she has? [18:00] courtni - No, but I can find out if there is any. [18:00] Not today. [18:00] helllllllloooooo room [18:00] courtni - Do you have an agent ? [18:00] mkaguard- is that the real webmaster? [18:00] WHAT IS YOUR FAVE SONG OF AARON CARTER?? [18:00] When is the next SWTS cruise gonna be announced?? [18:00] please anser ashley!!!!i got your doll [18:00] um hello ppl [18:00] could i tell you the addy for my MK+A site i made? [18:00] I have it cut like that...I don't know how to style it!! LOL [18:00] Aarons Party [18:00] MINE IS, HAVE SOME FUNN WITH THE FUNK [18:00] OH LOOK MISS RUDE IS HERE! [18:00] hello do anyone want chat [18:00] Yes, I have an agent [18:01] Cool me too. I know how to style it though. [18:01] webmaster-hey how are ya? Me I wasnt in the country for the past two weeks. Everything dandy here in OlsenLand? [18:01] i got both mka dolls [18:01] hehe [18:01] Hi every 1 [18:01] How are you? [18:01] Hi StarO [18:01] ashley olsen talk to me [18:01] Good [18:01] wazzzzzzzup star0 [18:01] LOL [18:01] :O) [18:01] i know how to do some of MK's hairstyles [18:01] webmaster: how is the european-registration-problem going on? [18:01] I sent you an e-mail about reserving my name and it didn't work. [18:01] Happy Monday!!!!!!!!!!! [18:01] My agent can't find the address unfortunately. You can email her at maureen_green@readwo or hotmail .com [18:01] I see there is no sign of an Eminem knockoff in here. lol [18:01] DOES ANYONE KNOW MARY-KATE AND ASHLEY'S AOL SCREEN NAME? [18:01] Jimmy, are u eating again? [18:01] N E 1 here like BBMak?? [18:01] viva - Yup! [18:01] lol [18:01] Jimmy! Hi! [18:01] You guys are very active [18:01] i dont get this [18:01] Hello Everyone [18:02] Welcome back Haadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O) :O) [18:02] Jimmy---hi, im the real Star! someone took my nick [18:02] iIF YOU WANT TO CHAT PRESS 33333333333333 [18:02] 3 [18:02] 33333333333333333333 [18:02] I meant maureen_green@readwo.com or maureen_green@hotmail.com [18:02] 33 [18:02] Star0 - OK! HI! :O) [18:02] did you get my e-mail about that IMPORTANT information yet? [18:02] Hey Tay [18:02] Jimmy-Thanks! :) I [18:02] WEBMASTER: have you heard of any auditions to be in a MK&A show yet? [18:02] I KNOW HOW TO DO SOME MK HAIRSTYLES! [18:02] 333333333333333333 [18:02] Webmaster, how's life? [18:02] m happy to be back. Happy happy joy joy! [18:02] hey [18:02] hI VIVA! [18:02] BRB...have to take out the trash! :oP [18:02] Jimmy, wat schaft de pot? eeuuh, sorry thats dutch for whats for diner? :o) [18:02] do you guys like fashon/ [18:02] hello do anyone want to with me [18:02] Did you get my message about the agent and stuff ?? [18:02] hello peoples [18:02] sTAR---WHERE DID YOU GET THE NICK! PS--- i HAD IT BEFORE YOU [18:02] hello [18:02] hey [18:02] hi courtni [18:02] No More!! [18:02] CuberT - If its Monday...Its veal! LOL! BRB [18:02] i'm leaving [18:02] DOES ANYONE KNOW MARY-KATE AND ASHLEY'S AOL SCREEN NAME? IF SO, WHAT IS IT?? [18:02] hi courtni!! [18:02] shanzieballs wants to talk [18:03] i know their email addys [18:03] I do but I can't tell [18:03] Hey!! [18:03] hello [18:03] SHANZIEBA A/S/L? [18:03] Do any of you have game boy color? [18:03] hey COURTNI i know some MK+A hairstyles [18:03] jimmy--veal-----yakkkkkkkkkkkkkk [18:03] * Thorsten slaps Tay around a bit with a large trout [18:03] Is the permission site under construction still? [18:03] sorry [18:03] My agent wants to contact the company...there is an interest...please talk with me about this [18:03] I have gameboy color [18:03] J'ai amie Mary-Kate, aussi, j'ai amie Ashley. [18:03] VANILLA, AND SILVER ST., WHAT IS IT??? [18:03] Anyone go to the Mall of America to see Marykate and Ashley? [18:04] hey room [18:04] I did [18:04] Star----why did you pick that nick? [18:04] I am not telling [18:04] Do you have a website?? [18:04] Permission site??? [18:04] Silver don't tell [18:04] strange [18:04] i wanted to go, but i couldnt go [18:04] Did you ,guys here that 20000 fans showed up at the Mall of America????? [18:04] webmaster is gone :-( [18:04] Do any of you guys ever talk to me? [18:04] *** ashley was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:04] VANILLA, YA PROBABLY DO NOT KNOW [18:04] Are you there?? [18:04] this may seemdumb but is marykate and ashley out there [18:04] yeah i have a website [18:04] fanatic what happened there [18:04] I do to [18:04] Does anyone know if MK&A are having auditions to be in there movie and where. If so press 222 [18:04] So people can use the pictures off this page. [18:04] - WEBMASTER - : A personal opinion. I think the twins should play small part in more "serious" movies. What I mean is this - movies like Passport to Paris and Billboard dad are great movies, but only true fans like those. They are just "too Olsen". If someone isn't a real fan of MK&A they won't like the movie. I think that MK&A should appear with small parts in movies, fans will watch the movie because MK&A are in it, and people who are not a fan will [18:04] ... That way the respect people have for the twins and their fanbase might grow. It takes two was a good step in the direction with Alley and Guttenberg in it as well it wasn't an movie which was just "all Olsen". And even smaller parts will do the trick even better (okay, Little Rascals was TOO small, try to find a balance ;o) ). Anyway, it's not that I don't like those all-Olsen movies, it's just an idea. [18:04] HI!!!!!!!!! I'm your BIGGEST FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [18:04] do either mary-kate or ashley ever come in here? [18:04] STAR------------- WHY DID YOU TAKE MY NICK??? [18:04] it was fabulous. [18:04] lathander: webmaster is gone! [18:04] you guys go to fast. [18:05] hey everyone [18:05] *** sexychic was kicked by watcher ([cyp-k] please change your Nick) [18:05] VANILLA, WHAT IS YOUR WEBSITE, VANILLAISSTUPID.COM [18:05] ah nuts!! [18:05] it is cool. [18:05] hello [18:05] MK and A aren't here today [18:05] Lath, what are you trying to do, put the webby to sleep? :o) [18:05] you did not win [18:05] mkafan-nope they're not here today. They're probably off someplace, um, shark wrestling...... [18:05] I don't have one [18:05] STAR know u know how i feel! [18:05] -=FANatic=- were you in any of the pictures? [18:05] i wonder [18:05] OH....THOUGHT SO [18:05] yea [18:05] when are they gonna be here again? [18:05] I hate wrestleing [18:05] cool-girl----- You had the nick last [18:05] do anyone want to chat [18:05] which? [18:05] Hello marykate [18:05] Sure! [18:05] FANatic: oyu'vve met them? [18:05] stay tuned to the web-site for the time and date. [18:05] Are you there?? Where'd you go?? [18:05] what nick? [18:05] ILUVAIRBO talk nice or don't TALK AT ALL [18:05] LOL, I'll wait 'till webbie is back... have it still on notepad [18:05] right on lathander [18:05] you've* [18:05] If anyone knows if there are auditions being held to be in a MK&A show press 222 [18:05] STAR--- I HAD THAT NICK WAY BEFORE YOU [18:06] I KNOW MK&A'S AOL SCREEN NAME. IF YA WANNA KNOW IT, PRESS123 [18:06] 123 [18:06] I didn't go to visit my family. [18:06] 123 [18:06] I love WWF wrestling [18:06] Yall are AWSOME!!!!!!! [18:06] COOL-GIRL--- ARE YOU 11 [18:06] 123 [18:06] no [18:06] *** ashley was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:06] 123 [18:06] Star0: Arguing about who had the name isnt gonna give it too you [18:06] asl room [18:06] -=FANatic=- which picture(s)? [18:06] 14? [18:06] 12/m/canada [18:06] Does NE1 know where the webbie went?? [18:06] hi everyone [18:06] Hello ashley [18:06] ya why? [18:06] HI PEEPS [18:07] Watcher can you ask ILuvAirbo to be nice? [18:07] hmmm.. christmas is coming again, any1 for Cool Yule Volume 2? :o) [18:07] it's one with a whole bunch of ppl you wouldn't be able to see it if you don't kno wwho i am. [18:07] hey gap_girl!! [18:07] The webmaster will be here in a few min... He had a few computer problems [18:07] NEVERMIND [18:07] whos ashley? [18:07] Thx Shanzieba, I'll try again when webby is back [18:07] is there a reason why my name is always last on the participants list when Im here? not that it matters that much..... [18:07] I was wondering if anyone new when marykate and ashley are coming on? [18:07] is it allowed to give my own webpage addy? [18:07] ashley olsen [18:07] PRESS 123 AGAIN [18:07] The address you gave me is not the right address to Dualstar :-) [18:07] whatever. [18:07] star ; do you want to chat [18:08] asl peeps [18:08] 123 [18:08] 123 [18:08] back with more veal [18:08] Shanzieba : I live in Canada also. What province do you live in? [18:08] 123 [18:08] anyone wanna chat [18:08] okie dokie thanks for lettin' us know [18:08] 123 [18:08] Jimmy-the veal man huh? hehe [18:08] STAR----- WHERE DID YOU TAKE THE NICK---I HAD IT BEFORE YOU [18:08] does anybody have a mail box at the olsen twin website? [18:08] IT IS BAEBEE9702, THEY'RE EMAIL IS BAEBEE9702@AOL.COM [18:08] any hot guys wanna chat press 456 [18:08] i do [18:08] Thanks! [18:08] Haadi - yup! Moooooo! LOL! [18:08] 123 [18:08] except it got deleted [18:08] Star0 give it a break! [18:08] 456 [18:08] Jimmy brought veal for the etire chatroom :o) [18:08] I have an olsen mailbox. its sweet. hehe [18:08] do you want the address to my site? [18:08] ANY ONE WANNA CHAT WITH A 12/F/CANADA? [18:08] oh gosh [18:08] cool girl; do you want to chat [18:08] TWO OF A KIND IS AWSOME [18:08] Star0...please shut up [18:08] i live in Ontario [18:08] Webmaster: When is Mary-kate and Ashley's new movie coming out? [18:08] Yes [18:08] -=FANatic=- what were you wearing @ mall of america? [18:08] - MKAGAURD / WATCHER - Do you guys keep logs of these chats for review after the chat? [18:08] im a cat lover [18:08] mka_luvr : Hi, whats been happening in the chat room for the past week? I was at camp [18:08] hello everyone [18:08] Which one? [18:08] Who wants VeAL???? [18:08] do i tell ya through tihs screen? [18:08] eRIC---myob [18:08] Star0 : Hi [18:08] Jimmy-yeah veal rocks. I'll write a song about veal! hehe [18:08] lathander; pretty much so [18:08] Yes :-) [18:08] hello is marykate or ashley out there? [18:08] got to go peeps e mail me hot guys at sweetlookin_2000@hotmail.com [18:08] if you are a girl type in 2 [18:08] ok [18:08] lathander; we mostly only keep the mka chats permanently though [18:08] Eric I agree that star0 should shut up. [18:08] my favorite movie is Switching Goals [18:08] hello [18:08] DID YA GET TO SEE THEYRE EMAIL & SCREEN NAME????? IF YA DID NOT PRESS 100 [18:08] -=gap_girl=- not much at all!! [18:09] Is anyone in here into acting?? [18:09] hI GAP_GIRL---- i'M THE REAL sTAR [18:09] 2 [18:09] Hello Everybody [18:09] *** mkaguard sets mode: +o webmaster [18:09] If you wanna see me just look at the page with the pix of a whole bunch of fans. I am in the one on the bottom and I'm wearing a blue bandana with a sunflower on it. [18:09] *** watcher sets mode: +o webmaster [18:09] wb webmaster [18:09] hi again webmaster! [18:09] Our Lips are sealed [18:09] HI WEBMASER [18:09] chat so boring falling asleep zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz [18:09] Is the perission site under construction still? Did you get my IMPORTANT e-mail? As you can probably tell I didn't go see my fam. hehe. [18:09] Yes, I do have an agent [18:09] Shanzieba : What province do you live ni [18:09] - MKAGURD - I didn't mean for on the website, I meant for internal use [18:09] It is scheduled for November [18:09] ONTARIO [18:09] Webmaster-glad your back. did your PC blow up or something? [18:09] FANatic - We are working on that right now. [18:09] brb [18:09] cool [18:09] thanks [18:10] this is boring [18:10] MARY-KATE AND ASHLEY OLSEN'S SCREEN NAME: BAEBEE9702 EMAIL: BAEBEE9702@AOL.COM [18:10] Cool! Like at the moment as we speak? [18:10] cool [18:10] Awesome! [18:10] *** chelsea1 was kicked by mkaguard ([cyp-k] then you may go...) [18:10] Please talk with me about Dualstar for a minute...this is important. By the way...welcome back .. LOL [18:10] jimmy---I got back my nick! [18:10] YAY STAR!!!!!!!! :O) [18:10] who lives in florida.type in L [18:10] Anyone go to the Mall of America to see them? [18:10] Star : I kind of new that when you typed your a/s/l [18:10] http://olsensurprize.homestead.com/mkaalmost.html [18:10] Haadi - Yes - [18:10] webmaster: how is the european-registration-problem going on? [18:10] IluvAirbo- no it isn't [18:10] is gap girl out there [18:10] whos got all the movies they 've ever made [18:10] how are you? [18:10] YES IT IS, TRY IT [18:10] what is the name of MK&A new movie [18:10] hi im kinda new in this chat [18:10] WEBMASTER when are the twins going to chat? [18:10] courtni - What is it you want to know. [18:10] I have every single one of their videos! [18:10] Gap_Girl---I have my nick back!! yay [18:10] hows every 1? [18:10] Ah, webmaster is back [18:10] ARE THERE GOING TO E ANY NEW EPISODES OF TWO OF A KIND? [18:10] Did you ,guys hear that 20000 fans showed up at the Mall of America????? [18:10] Are you all ever going to make a movie in Texas? [18:11] webmaster-hehe okay. Just thought I'd throw some humor at ya since I havent been here for so long. =) [18:11] star; you are so rude [18:11] coll [18:11] would somebody talk 2 me???????????????????????? [18:11] Lathander - :o) [18:11] I need for you to get in contact with my agent. [18:11] -=GAP_GIRL=- CHICA IS AWAY ON A TRIP! THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING I KNOW OF! [18:11] WEBMASTER : WHEN WILL THE WEBMAIL BE FIXED? IT HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR ALMOST TWO MONTHS NOW [18:11] I was there. [18:11] - MKAGUARD - DO you mind if I repost that whole post again now webby is here to read it? It's kinda much, so I ask first [18:11] LOVE_BUG~ Mary-Kate and Ashley are not here today. [18:11] mka_luvr : where did she go [18:11] this is fun [18:11] hows webmaster? [18:11] *** Mary-Kate was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:11] Gap_Girl - No, I don't think it has been. Did you write to the site. [18:11] BEST_OF_1---WHY DO YOU DAY THAT? [18:11] I WANTED TO GO ON THE CRUISE, BUT I COULDNT GET A RESERVATION [18:11] the web mail is working fine [18:11] gap_girl; the webmail seems to be operating fine for most people [18:11] Her email address is maureen_green@hotmail.com or maureen_green@readwo.com She is unable to find the address to Dualstar [18:11] VANILLA, IF YA REALLY KNOW WHAT IT IS , JUST SAY [18:11] THAT STINKS [18:12] *** Mary-Kate was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:12] I DUNNO. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ASK [18:12] CHEESE!! [18:12] Do Mary Kate and Ashley have any plans to visit the Mall Of America again? [18:12] mkafan : hi [18:12] *** ashley was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:12] Gouda! [18:12] Really? Whos from Minnesota? [18:12] WEBMASTER when will the twins chat? [18:12] It works great if you go to the right link! There is only one link that works for me. [18:12] courtni - Why does she need the address? [18:12] jimmy--Gouda=? [18:12] I WISH MARY-KATE AND ASHLEY WOULD COME TO TEXAS [18:12] I work at the Mall [18:12] I am from MN [18:12] webmaster-little prob I'm having with the automated e-mails i get from the site. It keeps sending me three of the same ones at a time. [18:12] - JIMMY - That's a dutch town [18:12] VANILLA!! [18:12] This is VERY important...there is an interest and she wants to discuss some things. (movie wise) [18:12] did you know that mka have a older bro and a young bro and sister [18:12] Gouda is a cheese. .... and a ductch town [18:12] mka_luvr : where did chica go [18:12] You do? [18:12] Are the twins goingto chat [18:12] Fanatic: Where? [18:12] do you know MK+A's AOL screen name? [18:12] -=webmaster=- Have the twins decided the next cruise destination yet? :o) [18:12] who seen Switching goals? [18:12] Which store? [18:12] yes [18:12] You're not much, if you're not Dutch! [18:12] Me [18:12] I love Gouda cheese Jimmy. hehe [18:12] jimmy-ok [18:12] There old one is supertwins_marykate_ashley [18:12] i have a question since im new in this chat ppl! [18:12] I LOVE SWITCHING GOALS [18:12] Forever Green [18:13] Can't say what town but like 10-15 minutes away [18:13] Jimmy - I like you! :o) [18:13] - JIMMY - LOL [18:13] WEBMASTER: ARE THERE ANY AUDITIONS TO BE IN A MK&A SHOW OR MOVIE YET AND WHERE? THANX ALOT! [18:13] hey [18:13] Webmaster when r Mary-kate & Ashley gonna chat? [18:13] hi [18:13] here I go again... [18:13] star; she was on here before you and that is rude [18:13] jimmy---then I guess I'm not much!! lol [18:13] i've read swiching goals [18:13] -=GAP_GIRL=- I DUNNO! I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ASK [18:13] Mikayla: Check the site [18:13] WEBMASTER when will the twins chat/ [18:13] very funny [18:13] YA RIGHT! [18:13] FANtic: Why? [18:13] Watch the site for the date [18:13] - WEBMASTER - : A personal opinion. I think the twins should play small part in more "serious" movies. What I mean is this - movies like Passport to Paris and Billboard dad are great movies, but only true fans like those. They are just "too Olsen". If someone isn't a real fan of MK&A they won't like the movie. I think that MK&A should appear with small parts in movies, fans will watch the movie because MK&A are in it, and people who are not a fan will [18:13] ...That way the respect people have for the twins and their fanbase might grow. It takes two was a good step in the direction with Alley and Guttenberg in it as well it wasn't an movie which was just "all Olsen". And even smaller parts will do the trick even better (okay, Little Rascals was TOO small, try to find a balance ;o) ). Anyway, it's not that I don't like those all-Olsen movies, it's just an idea. [18:13] Star - Oh well! We still luv ya here! LOL! [18:13] I know that [18:13] cool-girl: check the web-site, it will be annouced [18:13] You see, my agent is also the co-owner of a new movie production company. She wants to contact Dualstar regarding some movie things..will you please email her?? [18:13] Ashley,Are yall ever going to make a movie in Texas? [18:13] courtni- have her write to the webmaster@marykateandashley.com Mark the subject PRODUCTION COMMENTS [18:13] MaryKate- you are not to copy reserved named [18:13] Star : do you know where chica went on her vacation [18:13] It's a chat room. There could be crazy ppl. [18:13] ****womp**** [18:13] (ash)Switching Goals is my favorite movie! [18:13] were did u get that from?(mary-kate and ashleyscreen name) [18:13] thanx! [18:13] jimmy---awwwwwwwwwwwww lol [18:13] hi gapgirl thanks for responding how did you come up with your name? [18:13] sorry peeps, I just wanted to have that said [18:13] WHAT IS IT NOW! [18:14] *** ashley was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:14] MARY-KATE AND ASHLEY ARE NOT HERE TODAY! [18:14] Thanks so much! [18:14] I'LL B BACK TOMORROW......MAYBE! [18:14] LAthander - Thanks for your thoughts. The girls will be participating in some other TV show this year. [18:14] I am not going to tell you [18:14] FANtic: email then when the chat room is done [18:14] and e-mail isn't very responsive usually [18:14] Why [18:14] hi [18:14] whos ashley [18:14] I Don't care what you think of me if I don't I will not tell you [18:14] pyi54juhljrgmik65kuopitk [18:14] grrrrrr whos webmaster? [18:14] hi [18:14] Webmaster-Other TV shows? Far out! Like which ones? [18:14] YAY!!!!!!! They should go on LoveLine or Politically Incorrect [18:14] I don't know [18:14] M-K-is-hot coool name [18:14] So we can talk, I live in MN [18:14] WEMASTER: WHAT IS THE EMAIL ADD OF THE WEBMAIL PEOPLE AT MARYKATE AND ASHLEY.COM? BECAUSE MY MAIL BOX GOT DELETED AND IT WONT LET ME HAVE ANOTHER ONE [18:14] *** LOVE_BUG was kicked by watcher ([cyp-k] let me show you the way out...) [18:15] YA, THAT MEANS SHE MADE IT UP [18:15] Cool lath, the twins will now appear in "Sesamstraat" :o) [18:15] -WEBMASTER- COOL!! I hope you do something with it though. Can you tell what TV show and if it comes to Europe? :o) [18:15] JIMMY---I went to see the kid yesterday!! [18:15] Jimmy-LoveLine?? LOL I like that! [18:15] star; she was here before you and that is rude [18:15] Did you get the second half of the IMPORTANT e-mail? [18:15] I think that MK&A should come to Texas....do you know any details about SWTS 2001?? [18:15] Eric- i know, itz true too [18:15] the first chat i chated with them [18:15] Haadi - LOL! [18:15] Star - How did it go?! :O) [18:15] YES THEY SHOULD COME TO TEXAS!!! [18:15] VANILLA, CAN YA PLEEZ EMAIL IT TO ME, PLEEZ SAY YES [18:15] its true [18:15] *** ashley was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:15] MKis-hot yep! [18:15] whos the webmaster? [18:15] Webmaster, when will the calender page be updated? [18:15] Hey people :) [18:15] I WOULD LOVE TO MEET THEM [18:15] IF YOU WANT TO CHAT PRESS 5555555555555555 [18:15] ash_ you can write to webmaster@marykateandashley.com [18:15] Did anybody go to the mall of america? [18:15] My mom is considering letting me go on the SWTS cruise 2001 ... do you know the price ranges?? and any other details?? [18:15] IF YA EMAIL ME IT MEANS YA REALLY KNOW IT [18:15] ANYONE WANNA CHAT [18:15] -=webmaster=- Have the twins decided the next cruise destination yet? :o) [18:15] Jimmy-yeah I can see it now. They'd be sitting there talking with Dr.Drew and everything. I wonder how the phonecalls would sound. LOL! [18:15] best_of_1----------I had that a long time ago! [18:15] OK THANKS [18:15] Mk-si-hjot the webmaster is [18:15] oh... is webmaster [18:16] CYBERT LOL! [18:16] thanx Eric [18:16] I luv airbo I will ask them if they will email you but you need to tell me your email address [18:16] courtni - No, not yet. [18:16] jimmy---it was funny!! [18:16] quite obvious... [18:16] Is MK&A ever coming to Wisconsin? [18:16] They are very nice, very polite, and even prettier in person than in pictures ... doesn't seem possible huh? [18:16] CyberT - We are working on that right now. [18:16] the kid is funny! [18:16] On SWTS do the fans get to meet and talk to the twins?? [18:16] ERIC a/s/l? [18:16] LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [18:16] HEY WEBMASTER, DO U KNOW THE OLSEN'S SCREEN NAME, TELL ME IF U KNOW [18:16] would somebody PLEASE talk 2 me i didnt chat 2 any 1 sense friday [18:16] IT IS ILUVAARONCARTER@ZEEKS.COM [18:16] gap girl this is mkafan wants to chat! [18:16] FANatic- you've met them??????? [18:16] yes [18:16] cool-girl: 12/m/alaska [18:16] How about they guest star on the Simpsons??? [18:16] IF YOU WANNA CHAT PRESS 1243 [18:16] im new in this chat and i kindda wanna know who are and stuff since lots of ppl ask u questions and stuff like that [18:16] 1234 [18:16] Star - LOL! I like funny! LOL! [18:17] you live in Alaska? Cool! [18:17] Hey gapgirl love your name [18:17] hi [18:17] webmaster is MK&A ever coming to Wisconsin? [18:17] ok there going to email you [18:17] 1243 and not a private chatroom [18:17] I need to know the price for that cruise! I hardly can sleep at night! :P [18:17] Jimmy-You read my mind man. That would terriffic! They can help Bart and Lisa. hehe [18:17] jimmy--then go see it. But it is also sad [18:17] WEBMASTER: any new news one the twins? [18:17] No i haven't met them but i was at the Mall of America when they were and they were very polite to everyone and very caring towards their fans. [18:17] Oh wait, I got it really mixed up here [18:17] EMAIL ME NOW, PLEEZ, CUZ I AM GOING ON VACATION TO THE PHILIPPINES TOMORROW [18:17] When is the Question & Answers going 2 be updated?? I think there should be more LIVE CHAT and more QUESTIONS & ANSWERS. What are your thoughta? [18:17] the first chat i went to mka was there and they chated with me it was fun [18:17] star ; she was there before you [18:17] CyberT: Count Cruise Ships :p [18:17] There not on now [18:18] webmaster: how's the european-registration-problem going on? [18:18] MKAFAN : hi how are you? i forget your a/s/l what si it [18:18] Will someone chat with me? [18:18] talk to me [18:18] courtni - they are working on content [18:18] coolgurl : thanks [18:18] Haadi - lol :o) [18:18] Hi [18:18] ARE yall ferternal or idenical? [18:18] COOLGURL I will! [18:19] Who wants the twins to return to the Mall? [18:19] hi cat [18:19] your welcome [18:19] FANatic- cool... stuff like that makes me wish I lived in the States... they dont come to Canada that often... [18:19] Darryl, if you don't like the interface of this chatroom, then leave :o) [18:19] : WHERE WILL AUDITIONS TAKE PLACE TO BE IN THEIR SHOWS [18:19] Me [18:19] ANGEL they are fraternal [18:19] Did you get the second half of the IMPORTANT e-mail? [18:19] webmaster? [18:19] best_of_1---I was chatting on this chat like over 2 month!! [18:19] SO, YOU EMAIL ME THEYRE SCREEN NAME PLEEZ, RIGHT NOW, PLEEZ [18:19] I do, i do [18:19] Do you have a page on how to fix your hair like Mary-Kate's if your hair is cut like that already?? (styling or whatever) [18:19] 12344667890 [18:19] i don't know what a/s/l/ is. [18:19] NO I WILL NOT [18:19] I want them to go back to the mall. I was in flordia for Baseball [18:19] WEBMASTER : my webmail still dosen't work I just tried it [18:19] WEBMASTER:Is MK&A ever coming to Wisconsin? [18:19] You can't tell if they are identical until they are at least 6 months old [18:19] if they want to email you they will [18:19] CyberT: It's in the background...I'm trying to type up a wrestling show that I was supposed to send 2hours ago :o) [18:19] HEY WEBASTER [18:19] when the line of clothes comes out, what size will it be? [18:19] hi u guys whats up? [18:19] Why wont an 1 TALK 2 ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [18:19] I will e-mail you and tell you some ways to style your hair k? [18:19] best_of_1---why do you care????????????? [18:19] Jimmy: They are Fraternal [18:19] STAR are you the rude one/ [18:19] WHY DONT YOU EMAIL ME, [18:19] my webmail is poohbear1@mary-kateandashley.com [18:19] Courtney - Junior [18:19] hi i'm babyface [18:19] Star: Lose the attitude [18:19] mkafan- a/s/l means how old are you, what's your gender, and where are you from [18:19] Cuz I don't want to [18:19] MKAFAN : age/sex/location [18:19] hi [18:19] MYOB COOL-GIRL [18:19] IS THE WEBMASTER OF TWINTWIRL.COM IN HERE?? [18:19] YA PROBABLY DO NOT KNOW IT [18:19] Jim Carey is going to be the Grinch this Christmas [18:19] hey! everyone [18:19] - WEBMASTER - I once read an article about twins which were identical from the mother's side, and fraternal from the father's side. Such twins are fraternal twins officially but they look a like a lot. Did this happen to MK&A? [18:19] MKIs-Hot...ashleys hotter [18:19] coolgurl : like your webmail address [18:19] hI [18:19] With that li'l guy from Austin Powers. lol [18:19] see thats y I don't want to tell you what it is [18:19] Where is MK&A Now????? [18:19] im kinnda new like a said and i wanna know who re u and stuff since peeps ask u questions and stuff like thats [18:19] THANKS [18:19] Webmaster please pass on our enthusiasm to the twins about having them return to the mall!!! [18:19] Vern? [18:19] DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT MARY-KATE AND ASHLEY'S SREEN NAME IS? I WANT TO KNOW!!! [18:19] jimmy---really, I love the movie the grinch! [18:19] jimmy are u a girl or a boy [18:19] I KNOW THIS IS THE WEBMASTER OF MARYKATEANDASHLEY.COM BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF THE CREATOR OF TWINTWIRL.COM IS IN HERE [18:20] hello [18:20] Anybody in for Cool Yule 2 ? :o) [18:20] hi Cassie200 [18:20] WHY NOT? [18:20] My hair is cut like MaryKates does anyone know a cool hair style to do? [18:20] STAR what douse MYOB supposed to mean? [18:20] Eric- no way, man... M-k is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times hotter!!!!!! [18:20] I know but I am not going to tell any one [18:20] I do [18:20] can I call yall some how [18:20] CYBERT - Cool Yule 2 - hunt for the Eastern Eggs [18:20] Star - Yup! It'll be in theatres for the holidays :O) [18:20] Webmaster-If someone had an idea for like a movie for the twins to do or even a whole script, where do we send them off to? [18:20] star; that is wrong i should chase you out like you did her [18:20] gapgirl um I'm not allowed to give any info. [18:20] FANatic. What is it? [18:20] ASHLEY IS HOTTER THAN MARY-KATE!! BIG TIME!! [18:20] So do I good trust for you to not tell. I don' t know their s/n but i know sompin' else [18:20] M-KIsHot - Really? then she is pudding by now :P [18:20] Hello. Anyone want to chat with me? [18:20] The hair style? [18:20] jimmy are u a girl or a boy [18:20] CyberT - They should call it "Too Cool Yule" LOL! [18:20] jimmy---You'll see me there!! [18:20] ash thier both twins [18:20] ILUVAIRBO Look your trying to get me to tell you SO I REFUSE TO TELL YOU [18:20] PLEEZ, IF YA EMAIL ME THEYRE SCREEN NAME, I WONT ASK YOU AGAIN, EVER [18:20] *** ash was kicked by mkaguard ([cyp-k] bye) [18:20] do you know when MK+A is coming for live chat? [18:20] mka master i would like to ask when are we gonna have a live chat with mary-kate and ashley [18:21] ash- no way, man... mary-kate is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay hotter [18:21] LOL! Jimmy! [18:21] I am a guy! [18:21] *** M-KIsHot was kicked by mkaguard ([cyp-k] bye) [18:21] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [18:21] You there? [18:21] BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO [18:21] MAKFAN : can you just tell me how old you are [18:21] CyberT-Cool Yule 2? hehe How bout they do a more cutting edge record and have Kid rock and Eminem guest on it? hehe [18:21] Why not It takes two 2? It takes tu-tu [18:21] jimmy---I know!!lol [18:21] lmlkuj'yt [18:21] anybodywant tochat [18:21] Check the site for the date. [18:21] Mk-is-hot: nope [18:21] *** ANGEL was kicked by watcher ([cyp-k] let me show you the way out...) [18:21] bye every 1 bye webmaster who ever u are [18:21] Lathbot - LOL! :o) [18:21] ilovemkaz- We will announce it on the site. [18:21] web master can you see if they will chat today [18:21] FUCK, YOU BITCHY VANILLA!!! [18:21] *** mkabot sets mode: +b *!*fan@1cust82.tnt30.sfo3.da.uu.net [18:21] Bye [18:21] Sure Haadi, lets go nuts for a change :o) [18:21] yeah, is it frayed? Cause the hairstylist sayed it is, fanatic [18:21] I AM NOT TElling you [18:21] Filip ARE you in here??? [18:21] Back to u [18:22] thankyou very much master [18:22] jimmy jimmy are u a girl or a boy [18:22] Did you get my e-mail that was the second part of the IMPORTANT one? [18:22] everybody make some Noiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiise! [18:22] Sorry, I didn't mean to send my last message to you [18:22] IF YOU WNAT TO CHAT PRESS 88888888888888888888888888 [18:22] I am a guy! [18:22] CyberT-Yeah I think if they did a crazy album like that it will blow the roof off the rock world! [18:22] [18:22] 8888888888888888888 [18:22] hey [18:22] Courtni - I am here [18:22] jimmy--how? [18:22] hi vanilla [18:22] hI JIMMY [18:22] Yikes. Someone is hurt over here. We have sirons goin' like no other. [18:22] hi [18:22] FANatic - they are pulling it for me. [18:22] Lets make it a "double" cd Haadi :o) [18:22] Star - nuttin butter! lol [18:22] jimmy how old are u [18:22] Ok, cool [18:22] hi coolgurl! :o) [18:22] ok [18:22] - Jimmy- Lathbot?? LOL! What's that a solarium?? [18:22] WHO IS WEBMASTER [18:22] Ashley is WAAAAAAAAAAAY hotter than Mary-Kate!! [18:22] I am 22 [18:22] hI MTF! a/s/l? [18:22] Vanilla, what are you not telling? [18:22] WEBMASTER: DO MK&A ANSWER THE EMAILS YOU SEND THROUGH THE SITE EVERY WEEK? [18:22] MY EMAIL STILL DOSEN'T WORK I JUST TRIED IT [18:22] coolgirl ; do you want to chat [18:22] When will the twins return to the mall? [18:23] I'M 13 [18:23] jimmy---and I'm a girl!! lol [18:23] sorry my parents are really strict and my dads right behind me!!!! [18:23] COOL-GIRL : I'll chat [18:23] Star - YAY!!!!!!!!! [18:23] lol [18:23] Hi every 1 [18:23] Have any of MK&A's fans ever found out their real email address and wrote them?? If so, how many?? [18:23] Will there be more pix from the Mall of America put up? [18:23] SO does any boy wanna hook up with a gal lkie me press 345 [18:23] hey WEBMASTER, are Mary-Kate and Ashley ever planning to come to Nova Scotia, Canada? [18:23] great!! [18:23] mkafan: say hi to your dad for me!!! [18:23] Hi Gap_girl! [18:23] webmaster-you got my last question right? Just asking in case I missed your response. [18:23] jimmy---lololololololol [18:23] jeremy are u are boy or a girl [18:23] Pass the pie please! [18:23] lol [18:23] hi coolgurl!! [18:23] HELLO EVERONE [18:23] mkafan: say hi to your dad for me!!!!! [18:23] i would like to say hey! to the mka master, guard [18:23] Eric- ur a little confused man [18:23] boy [18:23] YOUR FUNNY [18:23] lol [18:23] Gap_Girl - You need to e-mail the webmaster@marykateandashley.com SUBJECT WebMail Problem [18:23] WHERE WILL AUDITIONS TAKE PLACE TO BE IN A MK&A MOVIE OR SHOW? [18:23] ***hands out ice cream to go with the pie*** [18:23] jimmy---pie...I'm not a fan. [18:23] M-K-rules....how am i confused [18:24] YUMMMMMMMM! lol [18:24] GAP_GIRL a/s/l? [18:24] webmaster can you see if mka will chat today [18:24] bye ya'll!!!!!!!!!!!1 [18:24] Eric---guy or girl? [18:24] Taylor: He can't [18:24] jeremy how old are u [18:24] Star - What do you eat then? Tofu? [18:24] 14 [18:24] Star: 12/m/alaska [18:24] After u e-mail webmaster at that e-mail e-mail me. I might be able to help you! [18:24] MKAFAN : I promise I wouldn't tell anyone. Please trust me I am a Christian [18:24] Taylor - They are not going to be here today. [18:24] LOL [18:24] Webby, can you send the poll results from the vids we got to choose to peter? as a "true" fan he didn't visit the site and didn't see the pol :P [18:24] jimmy--no tofu. ewwwww [18:24] does any boy wanna hook up press 678 [18:24] They aren't going to. It would be like 7 minutes. [18:24] ANYONE WANT TO CHAT [18:24] jeremy asl [18:24] *** MaryKate- was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:24] WEBMASTER, I think I know marykate and Ashleys separate email, cause they wrote back to me a couple times but lately they haven't written back, is it them? [18:24] they need to make more chats.... [18:25] LOL T!!! [18:25] Ericcool, you live in alaska! [18:25] Hi room [18:25] hi [18:25] eric asl [18:25] tommorow [18:25] cool-girl :12 1/2 / F / Canada [18:25] They are busy. [18:25] www.olsendanceparty.com [18:25] Star: woopedoo [18:25] When will Mk and A be here next [18:25] Gap_girl a/s/l? [18:25] 12/m/alaska [18:25] Watch the site for the date. [18:25] WEBMASTER: WHENS THE NEXT CHAT W/ MK&a?? [18:25] Courtney - it is not them because they do not use their names in e-mails. [18:25] Were in Canada? [18:25] Does anyone here live in georgia? [18:25] Anyone wanna chat with a 14/f/nj? [18:25] amanda: Check the site, no one knows right now [18:25] Eric---im a 12/f/canada [18:25] cool girl; do you want to chat [18:25] Check the site for the date. [18:25] u guys are really nice [18:25] WEBMASTER: WHERE WILL THE AUDITIONS TAKE PLACE TO BE IN A MK&A SHOW OR MOVIE? [18:25] BTW: webby, Laura didn't like the quality of the blooper clips :P [18:25] i don't [18:25] *** MaryKate- was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:25] FANtic: Does it sat it now???? [18:25] FANatic : What si your email [18:25] HELLO [18:26] best_of_1---a/s/l? [18:26] I live n OHIO [18:26] Jordy - Don't know yet, maybe in late August, early September [18:26] are they tommorow web master [18:26] *** ashley was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:26] No, but it will [18:26] CYBERT: LOL, nope... I know one site that has "better ones" ;o) [18:26] is some body gonna talk to me [18:26] I love the blooper clips [18:26] BesT of 1 sure a/s/l? [18:26] do anybody want to chat [18:26] cool-girl : AB what is your a/s/l [18:26] FANatic do u have YM? [18:26] webmaster-Just out of curiosity what had to have been the funniest Mary-Kate and Ashley impersonator you've come across? [18:26] CyberT - I am sorry Laura is not pleased. [18:26] WEBMASTER: so its not: marykate9016@yahoo.com, ashley9018@yahoo.com? [18:26] I wish i could but after all the websites stories i just can't but i'm half christian and cathilic [18:26] My e-mail is OlsenTwins_FANatic_5@mary-kateandashley.net [18:26] ANYONE WANNA CHAT WITH A 12/ F/ NJ? [18:26] 14/f/Ca [18:26] bet_of_1---a/s/l? [18:26] Yes i do [18:26] We should have a Full House day here in the chat! ;o) [18:26] bye again!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [18:26] gap_girl hi [18:26] *** MaryKate was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:26] are mary-kate and ashley here? [18:26] Lath yes I know that and they are not 30 sec, like they should be, but "FULL" versions :o) [18:26] Okay everyone, I have to go now. [18:26] Have a good dayl. [18:26] hello how old are you ? [18:26] jimmy--cool [18:26] MKAFAN : are you there [18:26] Bye [18:26] Bye!!!!!! [18:26] MKA Guard - 2minutes [18:26] c-ya webby! [18:26] hello [18:26] later webmaster, thanks for chilli' with us. [18:27] Have a good nite [18:27] Oh bye bye Webby Wooo! :o) [18:27] hey WEBMASTER, wait! [18:27] hey ppl [18:27] cool girl ; 12 girl alabama [18:27] mka are u guys happy about bein stars [18:27] WEBMASTER: IN THE PAST WHERE HAVE SOME AUDITIONS TOOK PLACE AT? [18:27] OK webmaster [18:27] Bye have a good nite [18:27] T: Video maybe 1 minute I belive, music 30 sec [18:27] anybody want to talk to me? [18:27] i forgot about the chat!!! [18:27] Bye have a good nite [18:27] does an1 live n OH [18:27] wazzzzzzzzup [18:27] Ciao web [18:27] hey webby [18:27] bye FANatic [18:27] DO YOU THINK STAR IS RUDE? [18:27] FANatic, is the twins emails, marykate9016@yahoo.com, ashley9018@yahoo.com?? [18:27] yes I'm here GAP-GIRL [18:27] WEBMASTER, are the twins ever planning on coming to Nova Scotia, Canada? [18:27] helllooo?? [18:27] I like video. I have broadband! :o) [18:27] hi [18:27] jimmy---I watch that show like a bazillion times [18:27] who cares Lath? TTHP arn't even allowed to have them :P [18:27] are there any boys [18:27] Jimmy-boradband rocks! [18:27] hey jimmy [18:27] can we have more time to chat [18:27] NO it wouldn't have their names in it. They wouldn't want it to be obvious. [18:27] BYE BYE Star!!!!!!!!!!! :o) [18:27] Do you know if the WEBMASTER ever replied to my question "Have any of MK&A's fan's found out their real email address and ......"? ?? [18:27] are u from ns canada? [18:27] webmaster....are marykate and ashley going to chat soon [18:27] -- JIMMY -- Me 2!! Video rocks [18:27] HI mandi!!!!!!! [18:27] WEBMASTER:Is MK&A ever coming to Wisconsin? [18:27] Bye Bye jimmy! [18:27] oh, webbie is away again :-( [18:27] LOL T [18:28] *** Mary-Kate was kicked by mkabot (this is a reserved nickname, please choose another) [18:28] me too [18:28] coo girl yes yes yes [18:28] No webbie didn't [18:28] MKAFAN : do you have email? Please tell me howold you are! I promise I wouldn't do anything to hurt you [18:28] princess- yes i am are you? [18:28] Time is almost up! BYE BYE ALL!!!!!!!! :o) See ya in the wings! [18:28] BEST OF 1 do you think star is rude [18:28] is anybody from nova scotia? [18:28] Ok everyone thanks for coming... [18:28] Bye [18:28] Yeah R ther any boys [18:28] watcher-webmaster somewhat sleepy? LOL joking.....=) [18:28] EVERY1, IM SORRY ABOUT THE NICKNAMES THING [18:28] that video rocks [18:28] okay later watcher [18:28] bye watcher [18:28] *** watcher sets mode: +m [18:28] Bye Session Close: Mon Jul 24 18:29:00 2000 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------